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Saturday, April 21, 2007



ABOUT DATING TO RELATING, INC.

Dating to Relating is a web site developed for men. The purpose is to give men good sound advice about meeting women, flirting with women, pick up lines and pick up techniques to (obviously) pick up women, the basic law of attraction and other laws of attraction men can use in attracting women, "how to" seduction techniques to seduce women, dating techniques for dating women (including on-line dating techniques for use on on-line dating services), love making techniques for how to make love to women, and relationship techniques for how to relate to women.

Dating to Relating also offers personal dating advice and relationship advice and dating tips and relationship tips over the phone for men and women.

So if you would like to know: how to meet women, how to flirt with women, how to pick up women, how to attract women, how to seduce women, how to date women, how to talk to women, how to relate to women, how to kiss women, or how to make love to women. Dating To Relating might just be for you.

Dating To Relating is also trying to build a fun web site for men. Right now we have a section on Funny Videos, and a contest where you can win two free tickets to an LA Dodgers game.
We are planning many more fun things and free contests and give aways in the future.
You do not have to register to use Dating to Relating's website, but if you do register there are many more free benefits for you. Right now we are giving away free mini courses to anyone who joins our web site. Mini courses cover topics like: How to be a great lover, how to be a fantastic French kisser, how to find her g-spot and much more.

Dating To Relating is your one stop shop for all your dating and relationship needs.
Here is wishing you success with your future relationships.
Hope to see you at our website.

Mr. L. Rx

Tuesday, April 17, 2007

THE PROBLEM WITH DATING "GURUS"

The problem is simple. They only tell you how to meet and attract women. They don't tell you how to RELATE and KEEP them. WORSE yet, they don't even tell you the correct principles of MEETING women.....they tell you what worked for them.....and they tell you to do things that don't quite feel right for you......

WHY ? BECAUSE MOST GURUS HAVE NO REAL EXPERIENCE WITH MEETING A BROAD RANGE OF WOMEN AND SECURING A RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.

MOST GURUS HAVE SIMPLY DISCOVERED ONE TECHNIQUE THAT WORKS (ON ONE TYPE OF WOMEN), THEN DO IT ALL THE TIME ON EVERYONE, AND TELL YOU -- IT IS A NUMBERS GAME -

NO -- IT IS NOT A NUMBERS GAME - IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING SITUATIONALLY, YOU CAN CLOSE 80-90% OF THE WOMEN THAT YOU ARE INTERESTED IN.

WHEN I REVIEWED WEBSITES BEFORE PREPARING THIS ONE, I COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT I ACTUALLY SAW GURUS WRITING ADVICE:

--GURUS WHO HAD NO ACTUAL EXPERIENCE. THEIR ADVICE WAS BASED ON INTERVIEWS!
--GURUS WHO WERE WOMEN (WHO DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND THEMSELVES) GIVING ADVICE TO MEN.
--AND DOZENS OF GURUS WHO HAVE TECHNIQUES THAT CAN CLOSE WOMEN (BUT WOMEN THAT I WOULDN'T TOUCH WITH A 10 FOOT POLE. --DO YOU WANT THE CREAM OF THE CROP LIKE ME. OR WHATEVER YOU CAN GET BY CLOSING 10-20% OF WHATEVER USING A NUMBERS GAME.)

NUMBERS GAMES AREN'T "TECHNIQUES" THEY ARE CRUDE STRATEGIES. I KNOW GUYS WHO CAN GO INTO A BAR AND ASK EVERY WOMEN THEY MEET VERY CRUDELY "DO YOU WANT TO ####" AND GUESS WHAT, DEPENDING ON THE GUY IF THEY ASK 100 WOMEN OR SO THEY'LL GET ONE TO RESPOND.

THE PROBLEM WITH NUMBERS GAMES IS THAT THEY MAKE YOU DO THINGS THAT FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE, THAT AREN'T QUITE YOU...AND THEY DON'T WORK ON THE WOMEN YOU REALLY WANT!!!!

The problem is, there are different TYPES of men. And different types of men like different types of women. Different types of women require different strategies for each type. And I'm here to tell you all of them.

IF YOU WANT GOOD ADVICE YOU SHOULD SEEK OUT SOMEONE WHO HAS ACTUALLY DONE IT AND LEARN FROM THEM.

I HAVE DONE IT ALL!

--I HAVE MET AND MAINTAINED RELATIONSHIPS WITH A BROAD VARIETY OF DIFFERENT WOMEN.

--I HAVE SUCCESSFULLY MET WOMEN (AND DEVELOPED RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEM)
IN BARS
IN CLUBS
NATURALLY --ON THE STREET, IN THE STORE, ETC.
ON LINE
THROUGH NEWSPAPER and VOICE MAIL ADVERTISING
THROUGH FRIENDS

-- I HAVE GONE ON OVER 700 DATES WITH DIFFERENT WOMEN IN ONE YEAR.

--I HAVE HAD A MARRIAGE LAST 12 YEARS WITHOUT EVER CHEATING ON MY WIFE

--I HAVE HAD A MONOGAMOUS RELATIONSHIP WITH A GIRLFRIEND FOR 7 YEARS WITHOUT EVER CHEATING ON HER.

--I HAVE HAD MULTIPLE LONG TERM SEXUAL RELATIONSHIPS WITH AS MANY AS 10 WOMEN AT ONCE.

--I HAVE GONE TO BARS AND CLUBS AND GOTTEN LAID BY ONE-NIGHTERS 5 TIMES A WEEK FOR MONTHS ON END.

--I HAVE MANIPULATED THE MANIPULATORS (YOU KNOW, P**** TEASERS) WHO WERE OUT TO USE ME. (YES, OF COURSE, I GOT SEX, BUT IT WASN'T VERY GOOD)

--I HAVE GONE TO STRIP CLUBS AND HAD THE STRIPPERS ASK ME OUT!

--I HAVE HAD SEVERAL WOMEN ASK ME TO FATHER THEIR CHILD--NO STRINGS ATTACHED

--I COULD GO ON AND ON.

WHO AM I? Let me introduce myself. I am Mr. L. RX (Why Mr. L. RX? Well, I'd rather remain anonymous. I'm not into being famous. I don't have to prove anything to anyone, I'd just like to help a few guys out by giving them CORRECT information on women.)

WHAT MAKES ME QUALIFIED TO BE AN EXPERT ON DATING AND RELATING?

Well, I am 54 years old. and though at 20 I couldn't even get a girlfriend, I currently have 6 long term (2-5 years) sexual/romantic relationships going with younger women (Ages 22, 25, 26, 27, 30, and 40.) NO I AM NOT A PLAYER. I was married 12 years and never cheated on my wife. If I am in a committed relationship, I don't cheat. BUT in-between committed relationships, I am looking. And I feel I have the right to date and have sex with as many woman as I want, as long as I am HONEST with them about it and practice safe sex.

IT TOOK ME 50 YEARS but I finally got to understand and become very successful with women.

MY STATISTICS of SUCCESS

Teenager 0 dates. Virgin until 19. Lost my virginity to a legal whore in Nevada. Although considered "hot" by most women, once they met me I blew them away. First girlfriend by 20. I was married by 22, but had a miserable marriage and was divorced by 25. BUT....

BY 25 1/2 ? I had learned how to get laid 5 times a week in bars and clubs. Things I learned from these experiences culminated in me becoming a very good lover, and getting married again at 31 to a 19 year old women.... But I was divorced again by 42. BUT...

BY 43 1/2 ? I had learned how to get 2 dates a day with personal ads. I had over 700 dates in my first year alone. This culminated in me meeting the best sexual partner I had ever had (and I had had quite a few) which resulted in a 7 year relationship, but by 50 this was over too (not because of the sex- it was hot even after we broke up) but...

BY 52 I had learned how to get and maintain long term multiple sexual relationship without lying to anyone. (I usually have about 6-10 younger (19-40) sexual partners that I see once a week or once every other week, or once a month, depending on MY interest level. Most of these relationship I had maintained for years. Most of the relationships I had developed bewteen 50 and 52 have been maintained for 5 years, others 2 or 3 or 4 years.)

NOW at 54, I feel complete in my knowledge, I can meet women anywhere:-- in a club, on the Internet, in personal ads, through friends, and on the street. If I want, I can close about 90% of the qualified women I meet for long term sexual relationship or marriage. Once married, I am a good honest man that knows how to treat a woman, emotionally and sexually. I am not currently married (though I have had about 4 proposals and 4 girls who would marry me in an instant if I asked), because I won't settle for anything less than a , beautiful, classy, intelligent and emotionally mature woman, that has a great family and friends, knows what she wants to do with her life exactly, and has many, many things in common with me. (Unfortunately as if this writing, I haven't found her yet.)

In other words, I have the beginning game, middle game and the end game all down.

AND though there is a lot of good information and good guys (like David DeAngelo, David M., Mystery, etc.) teaching guys stuff in seminars, books, private coaching, etc. They are all missing little pieces of the truth. Their techniques work, but only with a certain kind of woman. "Cocky and Funny", for example, doesn't generally work on the classy, intelligent women, that I like. And sure Mystery's techniques work on bar and club woman (I know his techniques work, because I did almost exactly the same thing in 1978 when I got laid in clubs 5 times a week by "one night stands".) but bar and club woman again aren't the classy intelligent woman that I LIKE... .And perhaps you are like me...

MORE OF MY STORY

When I was a young man. I was simply hot. I never chased women. Women chased me. I had experiences that guys typically didn't have. Girls stopped their cars and tried to pick me up, girls whistled at me. Younger girls who knew me in school, upon turning 18 usually, would confess that they had a crush on me all their lives. Girls would approach me on the beach and tell me I was the hottest guy on the beach...one girl even stopped the elevator mid-floor and told me I wasn't getting off until I kissed her....

BUT-- don't go anywhere, just because I was HOT doesn't mean I got women. I just got approached all the time. As SOON AS I OPENED MY MOUTH (or shortly thereafter) I LOST THEM. THEY WOULD TELL ME I WAS NUTS, AND RUN AWAY. I didn't quite understand it then, but I DO NOW.

SOMEHOW, I managed to get married by 22, to my first girlfriend (She was NUTS too), and had a terrible marriage, and got divorced

When I was 25 (1978) after a failed marriage, I decided to START LEARNING, I hung out in bars 24/7 until I figured out "how to get laid." It took me 3 months. After 3 months I could go out 7 days a week and get laid 5 of those days by "one nighters" that I liked.

What I learned at this time was that, although I was good looking, that didn't matter. I became successful by learning what to say to women.

I eventually got married again to a women who was 19 when I was 31. We were married 12 years and had 2 children. When we eventually broke up, I was 42.

Now when I became single again at 42, I was not as good looking as the teenage to 30 year old version of myself. I was still trim and in good physical shape and didn't quite look my true age, but I was balding and knew I couldn't compete with a hot 25 year old on sheer looks.

What I soon was to learn, however, is that it doesn't hurt to have "good looks" but it is not really important. All it gets you is attention. There are other ways to get a women's attention. MONEY, good conversation, personality and technique are some that come to mind.

What I was soon to learn was that an Older, Balder version of me could get more young women...and keep them... than the Younger, Hotter Version of me ever could.

I DECIDED TO LEARN SOME MORE. I started exploring personal ads, which were big at the time. Within about 3 months again I was routinely going on 2 dates a day (YES A DAY) for about a little over a year. That's right I had over 700 dates in one year alone. Believe me, it was a part time job. After about 13 months of this, I settled down with one women I met and she became my girlfriend -- after about 3 months of dating. I lost interest in all other women and in meeting new women. I had a monogamous relationship with her and was faithful for 7 years to her.

WHEN I BROKE UP WITH HER, (at age 50) I decided to learn the rest of the things I still didn't know to really master the area. I explored personal ads some more, Internet dating, and meeting people on the streets and through friends.

Within about 3 months again, I learned how to have multiple sexual partners/friends (notice I don't use the term Girlfriend) without LYING. I have had as many as 10 sexual partners/friends at one time (but I found this a little exhausting) and prefer to have about 6 sexual partners friends and see about 3 or 4 of them a week, using my other nights to continue my search for the ideal /marriage partner.

Though I haven't found my ideal marriage partner yet, it is because I have become very picky, because I won't settle for anything less than a beautiful, classy, intelligent and emotionally mature woman, that has a great family and friends, knows what she wants to do with her life exactly, and has many, many things in common with me.

I must say I am as content as a single guy could be. And I am more successful with women now at 54 then I have ever been. (And it is with the same age group that I have always been interested in 18-35) My multiple partners kind of combine into one ideal women, but of course.... in the final analysis... I really am a monogamous man and would rather be married....

But TODAY I am here to help you.

In my Newsletter and my BOOK: Dating to Relating - you will learn how to:

- MEET any type of women in any TYPE of situation

- Use PICK UP lines and PICK UP technique laid out for different situations

- Develop your own PICK UP lines and PICK UP technique from the principles you learn

- Exact techniques for approaching different types of women and establishing a relationship (Click here for an example right now.-- See Examples under The Book and Newletter Column.)

- How to understand how different types of women think and how to approach each type.

- How to approach a women without feeling uncomfortable

- What a women's feet have to do with it?That's right-- how feet can be a guide to SANITY in meeting and relating to women.

- Learning how to understand and use subtle and gradient communications that women use.

- How to get women to approach you, and make the moves on you first.

- How to prospect and qualify - that's right guys?we are salesmen!

- How to reject girls - let them down easy. Get use to it. You'll have so many girls, you'll have to let a few of them go!

- How to define what your ideal woman is so you know what you are prospecting for.

- Exact strategies for meeting women in different settings -- bars, street, stores, etc.

- How to establish "Future" with a woman. Relationships start here.

- How to establish "Future" with a women walking down the street, in the mall, etc.

- Exact techniques for what to do on the first date so you don't blow it.
- Exact techniques for what to do on the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc. dates so you don't blow it.

- And once you make it that far I'll even tell you how to develop your budding relationship. (Click here for information on relationships)


(c) 2007 Dating To Relating, Inc.

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MR L. Rx


















SEXUALITY

WHAT A SUBJECT.


























DO YOU KNOW HOW TO GET A SECOND DATE?

Ninety percent of the woman I go out with on a first date, want to have a sexual relationship with me by the end of the date. So guys have asked me. "What is the biggest mistake guys make on the first date that prevents ever having a second date or developing a sexual relationship (rather than a friendship) ?"Well there are several mistakes a guy can make. Let me summarize them here then go into more detail. MISTAKES ARE:1) Talking about yourself too much. Trying to be interesting instead of INTERESTED2) NOT ASKING QUESTIONS AND NOT LISTENING ENOUGH.3) FOCUSING TOO MUCH ON SEX-- either overtly or by innuendo.4) NOT USING SUBTLETIES ENOUGH (What a woman understands)5) NOT DEVELOPING SEXUAL FLOW OR INTEREST.6) NOT CREATING FUTURE. (A relationship is ALL about FUTURE.)The first mistake that most guys make is that they go on the first date and talk all about themselves, sort of strut around telling the girl that he's got this car, and he's got this job and he talks and talks and talks bragging about this and that trying to impress the girl that he is a good catch.What a girl sees is a self-centered ego maniac that isn't going to be able to take care of her at all, because he is not interested in her and doesn't listen to what she has to say. Not a good relationship prospect.Another way of saying it is that guys try to be interesting. They figure they have to be interesting for a girl to be interested in them. Sorry guys, but it doesn't work that way. You have to be INTERESTED in the girl, not INTERESTING to get her attention. Did you ever see two interesting people on a date. It is hilarious! They are both so busy trying to be interesting to the other that neither has time to be interested in the other.If you don't know what I am talking about, think what makes you feel better. A girl who is INTERESTED in you? Or a girl who is telling you how cool she is, how hot she is, etc. and all kinds of other INTERESTING things.INTERESTING leads to a lot of rejection and "platonic" friendships by the way. Girls will be friends with a guy who is really interesting. Why? Girls like to be amused and entertained. Interesting men are sort of like children to them. A source of non-sexual amusement and pleasure.Then there are the guys who are SCARED S***less and don't know what to say. So they say all kinds of useless and banal and irrelevant stuff to again be INTERESTING to the girl.Then there are guys who dread silence. So whenever there is a silent moment they feel awkward and have to fill the silence with some noise, so they open their mouths and say something trite and banal again just to keep the conversation going and again to be INTERESTING to the girl.- THEY AREN'T. You don't have to fill silence with verbal chatter. Maybe it is a good time for some non-verbal communication?like a smile, or a light touch.90% of the girls I have a first date with want to go out with me again and have a relationship with me. WHY, well the biggest factor is I am INTERESTED in getting to know them. So I never come scripted, I am always just there and I ask questions designed to get to know the person in front of me. THE SECRET: Well, I just said part of it, so here is it allI AM INTERESTED. I ASK QUESTIONS and then I LISTEN TO THE ANSWERS. Based on the answer they give, I may ask another question or I might say something that I know they would be interested in knowing because of what they just said.MOST of the time I spend about 80% of my time on a date LISTENING. Girls like that.ANOTHER BIG MISTAKE GUYS MAKE that prevents a second date is putting too much conversation attention on sex, sexual topics, sexual innuendos, and her looks.ALL WOMEN THINK that ALL GUYS JUST WANT SEX. So basically, they are right and guys have to realize that girls have our number and are not impressed by it. GIRLS already KNOW you want sex. She wouldn't even be there on the first date, if she weren't vaguely OK with the concept of having sex with you. What she wants to know is: WHAT ELSE do you want; what ELSE do you like about her; what ELSE can you do for her; What ELSE do you have in common with her; how ELSE can you have fun together.So, LISTEN to what she talks about, because If you listen you will get clues.GIRLS communicate in SUBTLETIES and like to be communicated to with SUBTLETIES.As a rule I NEVER tell a good looking woman she is good looking until the 3rd or 4th date. That is a subtle communication that tells her that I am not like all the other guys who kiss her behind.So, you see, you don't have to tell a woman how pretty she is on a first date. (Especially if she is gorgeous, because she gets so much of this so often, it actually becomes a turn-off to her.) You can complement her on her dress, or her shoes, or you can say she has a nice personality (find something non-sexual you like about her and complement it) or you could say (but only once and non-repetitively) she has pretty eyes, or a cute nose, or a nice smile, or she has pretty hands. (Always pick a non-sexual part of the body to complement)So if you don't talk about yourself and sex. What DO you talk about? Talk about whatever the girl wants to talk about. LISTEN, and base your conversation off of what she is interested in. Ask questions about her . BUT you should have two goals for the night..1) DEVELOPING SEXUAL FLOW OR INTEREST.Now you don't want to TALK about SEXUAL stuff too much, but that does not mean you don't want to get the old sexual juices going. BUT you do that mostly non-verbally, not verbally (Unless she starts a sexual conversation with you.) Now some of the DATING GURUS have real good courses on how a man can be sexy and get a woman's attention sexually. (David DeAngelo's course comes to mind.) And this is an in depth topic that is much too deep for my article here. So let's just say it is done with posture, manners, attitude, movement , voice rhythms, and the occasional moving in close and the withdrawing, or light touch or holding of the hand momentarily. Verbally it is done with the right gradient of topic. If you do it right the woman will always give you a goodnight kiss as a way of further testing that sector out , and let you know by her non-verbal signals, whether you should continue or just let it go with a simple light kiss. It is better to develop it, make the woman want more, and walk away than to over reach and destroy everything else you have built up here. A simple hug, or a light kiss or the cheek or the mouth is what I do on 90% of my first dates that I am interested in.2) CREATE FUTUREWhat is future? Well if you are going to have a relationship with someone, rather than just a one-date-goodbye. You have to have some future interaction. AND FUTURE IS NOT "Can we go out again sometime." That is definitely NOT FUTURE. That is a plea! Begging! And this will definitely scare them away. (Watch "Blind Date" on TV some time.)Future is scheduling something that you both would be interested in doing for whatever reasons, sometime in the future. Something with value to both of you. YOU may want to have SEX with the girl right away in the future.. BUT SHE DOESN'T- not yet.. She wants to get to know you a little better. So FUTURE is a way that she can get to know you a little better, before deciding if she wants to have a sexual relationship with you or not. GIRLS LIKE THAT. And girls like guys who understand that.YOU SEE the girl wouldn't go out on the first date with you if there weren't some possibility that she could have sex with you. (BEING THERE is a subtle communication. She wouldn't be there if she wasn't somewhat interested.) So, unless you blow it, you will get sex eventually. HOWEVER, most guys DO blow it 9 out of 10 times instead of closing as I do 9 out of 10 times.So how to create FUTURE? Well on a date it is relatively easy. APPLY what I have said above. ASK QUESTIONS and LISTEN. She will tell you something that gives you a subtle opportunity to see her again, and it should be something she would be really interested in and it won't scare her off.EXAMPLE OF WHAT WORKS:While you are listening she talks about the math class she is taking in college she is having trouble with. You happen to me a math genius. You simply say, "Well I am really good at math. If you would like some help with your homework. Let me know." Then shut up. If she is interested in you, she will take the bait and say. "Yeah, oh I would so appreciate that" or something of the sort. If you have totally blown it by now and she doesn't want your help despite her learning disability, she won't take the bait. THAT WON'T HAPPEN unless you violated something else I have talked about here, and you talked about yourself too much, tried to be interesting, didn't listen, talked about sex or how pretty she was too much.While you are listening she says how she really likes to go dancing. So if you like dancing you say "Really, me too. I love dancing, let's do that sometime." Or if you don't like to dance , don't lie. Say "Really, then maybe you could help me because I don't know a thing about dancing but I think its time I learned. Do you think you could teach me a little sometime."GET IT. Come up with something you guys could do in the future that she and you would really like to do, that's not a plea "Can we go out again?"By the way FUTURE is the key to meeting girls on the street in the store etc. Lots of girls will give you their phone numbers but about 90% of the beautiful women I know say they would never have a relationship with someone they met that way. BUT if you can establish FUTURE right there on the street or on the first call you can destroy those odds. And REMEMBER FUTURE is NOT "Can we go out sometime." To a women that just means you want sex, and you are asking for it before you have established any other value to her.You see, meeting girls who work in stores or restaurants is easier than stopping them on the street, because the situation already has future built in.. you know where they work, you can come back again and again, she can get to know you ..FUTURE you see.But, stopping a girl on the street and establishing FUTURE. Now that can be a challenge.. But, I've done it. Many times. You apply the same principles above. Don't talk about yourself. Be interested in her. Ask questions. Listen to the answers. When she says the opportune thing that you can tell has value to her.then jump right in with some FUTURE.

(c) 2007 Dating To Relating, Inc.










What do dating Gurus fail to tell you?

I’ve checked out a lot of Dating Gurus.Some have useful information, some don’t. When it comes to meeting women, most only give you information that works in one situation or with one type of girl. That’s why most still say it is a numbers game.

Then NONE of them tell you what to do afer you meet a girl. How to turn a phone number into a girlfriend or a realtionship or a wife. THAT’s because they DON’T know.

That is why I entered the arena. To give guys information that is useful across situations and with different types of girls.

I show you how to qualify women for relationships and I show you how to meet them and close 80-90% of the qualified women you meet NO MATTER WHAT YOU LOOK LIKE or HOW OLD YOU ARE!!

NO, it is NOT a numberd game….if you really know what you are doing…..
But that is MY OPINION of what you guys need and want. What I’d really like to know is what you guys feel dating gurus fail to teach or tell you, and what you’d like to get out of a “dating guru” that no one seems to be telling you.

So here is your chance. Let me know what you’d really like to know and I will try to get you the answers…

Mr L. Rx

www.DatingToRelating.com

DO YOU KNOW HOW TO GET A SECOND DATE?

Ninety percent of the woman I go out with on a first date, want to have a sexual relationship with me by the end of the date. So guys have asked me. "What is the biggest mistake guys make on the first date that prevents ever having a second date or developing a sexual relationship (rather than a friendship) ?"

Well there are several mistakes a guy can make. Let me summarize them here then go into more detail. MISTAKES ARE:

1) Talking about yourself too much. Trying to be interesting instead of INTERESTED
2) NOT ASKING QUESTIONS AND NOT LISTENING ENOUGH.
3) FOCUSING TOO MUCH ON SEX-- either overtly or by innuendo.
4) NOT USING SUBTLETIES ENOUGH (What a woman understands)
5) NOT DEVELOPING SEXUAL FLOW OR INTEREST.
6) NOT CREATING FUTURE. (A relationship is ALL about FUTURE.)

The first mistake that most guys make is that they go on the first date and talk all about themselves, sort of strut around telling the girl that he's got this car, and he's got this job and he talks and talks and talks bragging about this and that trying to impress the girl that he is a good catch.

What a girl sees is a self-centered ego maniac that isn't going to be able to take care of her at all, because he is not interested in her and doesn't listen to what she has to say. Not a good relationship prospect.

Another way of saying it is that guys try to be interesting. They figure they have to be interesting for a girl to be interested in them. Sorry guys, but it doesn't work that way. You have to be INTERESTED in the girl, not INTERESTING to get her attention. Did you ever see two interesting people on a date. It is hilarious! They are both so busy trying to be interesting to the other that neither has time to be interested in the other.

If you don't know what I am talking about, think what makes you feel better. A girl who is INTERESTED in you? Or a girl who is telling you how cool she is, how hot she is, etc. and all kinds of other INTERESTING things.

INTERESTING leads to a lot of rejection and "platonic" friendships by the way. Girls will be friends with a guy who is really interesting. Why? Girls like to be amused and entertained. Interesting men are sort of like children to them. A source of non-sexual amusement and pleasure.

Then there are the guys who are SCARED S***less and don't know what to say. So they say all kinds of useless and banal and irrelevant stuff to again be INTERESTING to the girl.

Then there are guys who dread silence. So whenever there is a silent moment they feel awkward and have to fill the silence with some noise, so they open their mouths and say something trite and banal again just to keep the conversation going and again to be INTERESTING to the girl.- THEY AREN'T. You don't have to fill silence with verbal chatter. Maybe it is a good time for some non-verbal communication?like a smile, or a light touch.

90% of the girls I have a first date with want to go out with me again and have a relationship with me. WHY, well the biggest factor is I am INTERESTED in getting to know them. So I never come scripted, I am always just there and I ask questions designed to get to know the person in front of me. THE SECRET: Well, I just said part of it, so here is it all

I AM INTERESTED. I ASK QUESTIONS and then I LISTEN TO THE ANSWERS. Based on the answer they give, I may ask another question or I might say something that I know they would be interested in knowing because of what they just said.

MOST of the time I spend about 80% of my time on a date LISTENING. Girls like that.

ANOTHER BIG MISTAKE GUYS MAKE that prevents a second date is putting too much conversation attention on sex, sexual topics, sexual innuendos, and her looks.

ALL WOMEN THINK that ALL GUYS JUST WANT SEX. So basically, they are right and guys have to realize that girls have our number and are not impressed by it. GIRLS already KNOW you want sex. She wouldn't even be there on the first date, if she weren't vaguely OK with the concept of having sex with you. What she wants to know is: WHAT ELSE do you want; what ELSE do you like about her; what ELSE can you do for her; What ELSE do you have in common with her; how ELSE can you have fun together.

So, LISTEN to what she talks about, because If you listen you will get clues.

GIRLS communicate in SUBTLETIES and like to be communicated to with SUBTLETIES.

As a rule I NEVER tell a good looking woman she is good looking until the 3rd or 4th date. That is a subtle communication that tells her that I am not like all the other guys who kiss her behind.

So, you see, you don't have to tell a woman how pretty she is on a first date. (Especially if she is gorgeous, because she gets so much of this so often, it actually becomes a turn-off to her.) You can complement her on her dress, or her shoes, or you can say she has a nice personality (find something non-sexual you like about her and complement it) or you could say (but only once and non-repetitively) she has pretty eyes, or a cute nose, or a nice smile, or she has pretty hands. (Always pick a non-sexual part of the body to complement)

So if you don't talk about yourself and sex. What DO you talk about? Talk about whatever the girl wants to talk about. LISTEN, and base your conversation off of what she is interested in. Ask questions about her . BUT you should have two goals for the night..

1) DEVELOPING SEXUAL FLOW OR INTEREST.

Now you don't want to TALK about SEXUAL stuff too much, but that does not mean you don't want to get the old sexual juices going. BUT you do that mostly non-verbally, not verbally (Unless she starts a sexual conversation with you.) Now some of the DATING GURUS have real good courses on how a man can be sexy and get a woman's attention sexually. (David DeAngelo's course comes to mind.) And this is an in depth topic that is much too deep for my article here. So let's just say it is done with posture, manners, attitude, movement , voice rhythms, and the occasional moving in close and the withdrawing, or light touch or holding of the hand momentarily. Verbally it is done with the right gradient of topic. If you do it right the woman will always give you a goodnight kiss as a way of further testing that sector out , and let you know by her non-verbal signals, whether you should continue or just let it go with a simple light kiss. It is better to develop it, make the woman want more, and walk away than to over reach and destroy everything else you have built up here. A simple hug, or a light kiss or the cheek or the mouth is what I do on 90% of my first dates that I am interested in.


2) CREATE FUTURE

What is future? Well if you are going to have a relationship with someone, rather than just a one-date-goodbye. You have to have some future interaction. AND FUTURE IS NOT "Can we go out again sometime." That is definitely NOT FUTURE. That is a plea! Begging! And this will definitely scare them away. (Watch "Blind Date" on TV some time.)

Future is scheduling something that you both would be interested in doing for whatever reasons, sometime in the future. Something with value to both of you. YOU may want to have SEX with the girl right away in the future.. BUT SHE DOESN'T- not yet.. She wants to get to know you a little better. So FUTURE is a way that she can get to know you a little better, before deciding if she wants to have a sexual relationship with you or not. GIRLS LIKE THAT. And girls like guys who understand that.

YOU SEE the girl wouldn't go out on the first date with you if there weren't some possibility that she could have sex with you. (BEING THERE is a subtle communication. She wouldn't be there if she wasn't somewhat interested.) So, unless you blow it, you will get sex eventually. HOWEVER, most guys DO blow it 9 out of 10 times instead of closing as I do 9 out of 10 times.

So how to create FUTURE? Well on a date it is relatively easy. APPLY what I have said above. ASK QUESTIONS and LISTEN. She will tell you something that gives you a subtle opportunity to see her again, and it should be something she would be really interested in and it won't scare her off.

EXAMPLE OF WHAT WORKS:

While you are listening she talks about the math class she is taking in college she is having trouble with. You happen to me a math genius. You simply say, "Well I am really good at math. If you would like some help with your homework. Let me know." Then shut up. If she is interested in you, she will take the bait and say. "Yeah, oh I would so appreciate that" or something of the sort. If you have totally blown it by now and she doesn't want your help despite her learning disability, she won't take the bait. THAT WON'T HAPPEN unless you violated something else I have talked about here, and you talked about yourself too much, tried to be interesting, didn't listen, talked about sex or how pretty she was too much.

While you are listening she says how she really likes to go dancing. So if you like dancing you say "Really, me too. I love dancing, let's do that sometime." Or if you don't like to dance , don't lie. Say "Really, then maybe you could help me because I don't know a thing about dancing but I think its time I learned. Do you think you could teach me a little sometime."

GET IT. Come up with something you guys could do in the future that she and you would really like to do, that's not a plea "Can we go out again?"

By the way FUTURE is the key to meeting girls on the street in the store etc. Lots of girls will give you their phone numbers but about 90% of the beautiful women I know say they would never have a relationship with someone they met that way. BUT if you can establish FUTURE right there on the street or on the first call you can destroy those odds. And REMEMBER FUTURE is NOT "Can we go out sometime." To a women that just means you want sex, and you are asking for it before you have established any other value to her.

You see, meeting girls who work in stores or restaurants is easier than stopping them on the street, because the situation already has future built in.. you know where they work, you can come back again and again, she can get to know you ..FUTURE you see.

But, stopping a girl on the street and establishing FUTURE. Now that can be a challenge.. But, I've done it. Many times. You apply the same principles above. Don't talk about yourself. Be interested in her. Ask questions. Listen to the answers. When she says the opportune thing that you can tell has value to her.then jump right in with some FUTURE.

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